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can anyone explain this?

geruchtemoaker

Well-Known Member
hey,
I experienced something weird today I was honing one of my razors but I couldn't get a HHT it's a full wedge of maybe quarter hollow. It was undercutting the slurry and water properly so I thought what the heck I'll try to shave with it anyway even after stropping still no HHT. but the shave was more than descent I would even say it was rather good.

Has anyone an explanation for this?

kind regards
Stijn
 

Bart

Well-Known Member
Other guys have testified that they get good shaves off razors that don't pass the HHT. It's a long time ago since I tried a shave of a Coticule edge that didn't pass fhe HHT-3 off the hone. But whenever I dismissed the HHT at earlier times, I never got a good shave.

There are other sharpening methods that give, or even require, different HHT-readings. I have experimented a bit with BBW paste on a jute strop, and that really removed HHT ability from edges that were passing HHT-3 before such treatment.,The shaves were nonetheless excellent.

Kind regards,
Bart
 

tat2Ralfy

Well-Known Member
Same goes for me, I never got a decent shave without a good HHT, I always think of the HHT as an indicator, a good clue if you will, and both the result of the test and the resulting shave are only really proved with shaving, if the shave was good then I would suspect the hair was off?

Best regards
Ralfson (Dr)
 

garyhaywood

Well-Known Member
I said it before i was reading te hht of my coticules and the strop. if i got a less than average hht . my thought was i have not honed well and the razor won't deliver. I'm so confident that if i set a bevel and do a good dilucot and finish on a good 100 laps on water that my razor will shave good any higher as in superb is a real bonus. the hht of the hone i try for a 3 on a thick hair agood 3 that is. my la grosse jaune gave me a 3/4 only 5 to 10 mm from holding point any further and no joy after stopping .. For some reason i could actauly tell the way the poped and reacted to my edge the shave was going to be ok. It turned out the shave was superb and i mean efortless against the grain with no irritation.

Cheers gary
 

Emmanuel

Well-Known Member
Hi Stijn. You are experienced ,so i don't think so you hold the hair vice versa, so it is? The only I can think of is:you tested with oily hair or your edge was not properly dry.For me a HHT less than 3 after stopping gives uncomfortable shave.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 

geruchtemoaker

Well-Known Member
I don't really care if I'm holding the hair backwards If it doesn't pop I just turn the hair around but that even didn't help. I used a hair from my secret stash who I harvested from myself after washing my hair.

kind regards
Stijn
 

life2short1971

Well-Known Member
I got better shaves before I could get a razor to pass HHT. Much smoother and still BBs at will. I can't repeat those results anymore sadly.
 

garyhaywood

Well-Known Member
its a strange one realy . i always aim for the top hht. i have a ti that shaves well and more smooth or mellow of a much less hht. still i feel could it be sharper. i just took that same razor to my lpb and rehoned using dilucot. my hht is not how i like it. i tryed so much to improve and there was none. I just redone dilucot on my les lat yellow side and i had a good hht staight away. i find 3 to 4 gives me a nice shave any thing above can be to crispy especialy against the grain. this is only somthing i started noticing latley. i still feel a 3HHT is defanate shave ready razor . the shave test tells e if i like or not. I have had less and the shaves have been good. i have had less in the past and the shaves have been a little ropy, less smooth due to not enought keeness. It just bugs me if i don't pass the HHT, why i don't no but it does. i think if i'm getting a good shave of razor that is below par on hht scale i think what would the shave be like if i hit the 3/4 mark? It could be even better or no better, I guess you can never tell untill you try and shave.
It will be interesting on my next shave to see if there is much differance with my higher hht on the same razor. the differnce being a 3/4 on medium har. before i could only pop hair near the holding point on the same hair.When i had a five plus on the same razor it was very crispy and i did not like that. I guess i fluked the 5 and would be lucky to get that level again, i'm lucky if i hit a 3/4 and have become quite settled with a 3/4, 3 at the worst.

gary
 
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