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Cretan hone

George,

I don't know. I have zero experience with Arkansas hones. What I tangentially wrote about them in my review was encyclopedic knowledge. Possibly Jared might be able to fill you in. I think he's much better versed in various natural hones than I.
I somehow suspect that you might be looking for a fast cutting Arkansas, something comparable to a Devonshire oilstone. But that's all just a hunch. I don't eve know if such an Arkansas stone exists.

Best regards,
Bart.
 
Based on my understanding of how Cretan hones behave, they are pretty fast. I am not aware of any Arkansas stones that are so fast. Supposedly the Lily White Washita (also novaculite but Washita hones are differentiated based on their lower range of specific gravity) are pretty fast for novaculite from the Arkansas area, but I don't know how fast. I'm hoping that obtaining a Cretan hone would help me to better understand them. I don't know what makes them different in composition. I'd love to see a geological analysis of the composition of both. Maybe Emmanuel would be interested in receiving an Arkansas stone for him to play with.
 
Thanks, Bart, Jared.

I was curious because both Cretan and Arkansas hones are quartz based. I have couple of Arkansas stones, but never used them on razors.

Yes, being able to compare the composition will be a good starting point.
 
I have a very small Arkansas just to refresh the pick of fishing hook.I don't thing so that a relationship exists between.Cretan hone has a large range from 800 until at least 7000.I never heard that Arkansas works with slurry.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
chti_lolo said:
Emmanuel,

Do you know, how did people raise the slurry for the heavy work in the past, when there were neither DMT nor good quality sand-paper ?


On my picture of the backside the stone seem darker because it is not totally dry.


Best Regards

Laurent
Laurent always the slurry produced by another smaller hone. The produced slurry by this way trust me enough.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
Hi,
Just saw this thread, as I said I have some Turkey stones and also have a good guess on where the white variety is coming from. If someone is willing to arrange a bulk order maybe I can help. It has the same problem with the Coticule (in a more pronounced way), when you try to cut it to reduced regular sizes it cracks.
 
I know by eyesight that Cretan is not the only place. But it exists at cliffs and mountains and is damn hard so it is not economically feasible to mine..
 
Iconium, Phrygia, Lycaonia, Cappadocia was ancient greek cities which devoured by the Turkish.
Emmanuel

To call all ancient world as Greek is a tradition I don't quite understand. Cappadocia is half way to Iraninan from Aegean sea and people lived in the stone caves there maybe 10 000 years ago.
 
My friend,please believe me that i love the Turkish people more than you think. I have many friends in Konstantinoupolis which i very appreciate. But the lost Greek cities occurred after the 1453 during the Invasion of Konstantinoupolis. Cappadocia ,i talk about the town and not the stone caves
inhabited by the Greeks until 1913 before the change of populations. That it isn't 10000 years ago.
But i am here to discuss about the coticules and anything related with the straight razor shaving and not the Greek history ,so i will be at your disposal for every thing helps concerning the honing etc.
With respect to my neighbors.
Emmanuel
 
Emmanuel said:
My friend,please believe me that i love the Turkish people more than you think. I have many friends in Konstantinoupolis which i very appreciate. But the lost Greek cities occurred after the 1453 during the Invasion of Konstantinoupolis. Cappadocia ,i talk about the town and not the stone caves
inhabited by the Greeks until 1913 before the change of populations. That it isn't 10000 years ago.
But i am here to discuss about the coticules and anything related with the straight razor shaving and not the Greek history ,so i will be at your disposal for every thing helps concerning the honing etc.
With respect to my neighbors.
Emmanuel

Hi,
Greeks of Anatolia seem to have lived together with Turks and other people a thousand years in Anatolia (Approximately, 1000-1900). Kingdoms and empires (both East Rome/Bzantine and Ottoman) were indeed brutal forms of states in their treating of people. Regarding modern problems between Greece and Turkey, I see mistakes on both sides but it is advisable not to be a fanatic of either state's propoganda/history and to be able to keep future ahead of the past.

Sincerely,
Burak
 
I trust everything is well Burak after the devastating earthquake in your country.
You have my sympathy.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
Emmanuel said:
I trust everything is well Burak after the devastating earthquake in your country.
You have my sympathy.
Best regards
Emmanuel

I would like to second Emmanuel's sentiment.
My deepest sympathies with our Turkish members. It is very odd that geological activity can give us such nice sharpening stones and at the same time can cause such devastating loss of human lives.

All the best,
Bart.
 
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