garyhaywood
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looks real nice.
tat2Ralfy said:I look forward to hearing how you get on Gary, I finished my G Myers 60 strokes on the hybrid side after I found my Les latneuses left it very sharp but a little crispy, and must say it was smoother, not as smooth as my #10 although TBH I guess I should give it 60 on that and try it again, if you absolutely refuse to go unicot with your LeGrelot you just know the TI paste will bring it on nicely, I have been meaning to tell you how much I like the shaves off that you sent me, providing I am starting with an edge thats only just lacking it gives me a sharp as I want edge thats coticule smooth :thumbup:
Bart said:My Chosera 10K puts a more aggressive edge on razors than any Coticule could. But the edges don't shave me closer, nor do they glide through the beard easier. The only difference is at skin level: The Chosera edge leaves a large number of bloody specks at my skin, mostly on the neck and the sideburn area. It are hair papillae sliced open, and it takes slightly over a day to heal.
I think your LeGrelot doesn't reach your preferred keenness on the Coticule to shave how you like it. We've addressed this issue in a thread a while ago: the LeGrelot has very hard steel, and a thick grind which causes a bit wider bevel than you'd found on a thinly ground full hollow razor. Both specifics (hard steel - wide bevel), make the razor respond slower to the hone. As explained in the other thread, each stroke over the hone affects the very edge in a negative way. It removes a bit of keenness. At the same time, the stroke also removes steel from the bevel faces, which adds keenness. Under normal circumstances, the stroke adds more keenness than it takes away, so your edge gains. But the finer it becomes, the more it becomes affected by the deteriorating stresses at the very tip, while the steel removal at the bevel faces remains the same. At a given point, the edge stops developing. Keenness has maxed out. On a razor with hard steel and wide bevels, that point will be earlier than on one with less hard steel and a narrower bevel. There are things you can do. I figure you won't like it, but Unicot will get you further, because it works on a narrower bevel. If you insist on Dilucot, it won't be that easy: you can use a bit more pressure. That is the success factor of the updated Dilucot procedure. A bit of pressured finishing in stropping direction can make a distinct difference as well.
Then we have the possibilities of pastes. And also other hones, but in my experience, you'll meet the same thresholds, even on the Chosera 10K. On a LeGrelot, I can't achieve the keenness I get on a small Unicot bevel, without doing something very similar with the Chosera.
Kind regards,
Bart.
Yes, but not with a lot. 20 or so.garyhaywood said:I've been tinkering around on this razor. after reading post. I thought i would give the razor some half strokes on water with a little pressure. Its crazy but it worked the hht of the hone is improved to just how i like it. bart would you follow up with some light strokes?
garyhaywood said:Bart i just shaved of my dovo with hybrid side. This side as given me a super smooth shave better than i got of the normal side. May be i honed a little better or this side is just smoother or like you said is easier to reach keeness.
What did you find? which was your favourite side?
The HHT is only meaningful when correlated to a certain hone. We can generalize a bit about Coticules and set markers for honing on them, but that we just can't compare HHT results from Coticules with other types of hones. The best example is a DMT-E (1200 grit). I can reach a HHT on that hone that easily matches what I can get of a Coticule (both edges unstropped). Yet, a shave of a DMT-E is rather uncomfortable.garyhaywood said:I can onestly say i'd be surprised if escher improved this edge.
What i have been doing is going to the extremewith hht i think it can be a little mis leading at times. As i'm relating to hht. In the past i have had razors pass on the finest of hair with paste that is (dp). The shaves have not been the nicest.