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next layer! any suggestion??
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torbenbp
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I`d sugggest you get to know your two coticules well and learn to get the best out of them.
It sems like you are allready well covered regarding hones.
But if you insist on getting a new coticule,you could wait untill the coticule vault is updated,though I do not know when that will be
Personaly I find coticules hard to resist for several reasons:
Their sheer beauty.
The history behind them.
The feel of a natural hone.
Doing a full honing on just on stone.
Etc.Etc.
But quite frankly`,I`m not a good enough honer to feel the difference betwen layers..
Regards
Torbs
It sems like you are allready well covered regarding hones.
But if you insist on getting a new coticule,you could wait untill the coticule vault is updated,though I do not know when that will be
Personaly I find coticules hard to resist for several reasons:
Their sheer beauty.
The history behind them.
The feel of a natural hone.
Doing a full honing on just on stone.
Etc.Etc.
But quite frankly`,I`m not a good enough honer to feel the difference betwen layers..
Regards
Torbs
It's about your hands not your stones.
Hone the same razor each day for a few weeks. Put yourself under time
pressure, consider it a failure if you're didn't finish it in 20
minutes (stropping included) and try it again the next day. Go for 10
minutes after some days. Keep your eyes open, be concentrated.
Choosing a good soap is more important than getting the next über
layer.
Hone the same razor each day for a few weeks. Put yourself under time
pressure, consider it a failure if you're didn't finish it in 20
minutes (stropping included) and try it again the next day. Go for 10
minutes after some days. Keep your eyes open, be concentrated.
Choosing a good soap is more important than getting the next über
layer.
Bart
Well-Known Member
shaved said:
Shaving prep probably constitutes for a bigger difference in a shave than the differences between layers.
But Stalker didn't post about solving some kind of supposed problem with his shave. He inquired about exploring another Coticule. For some of us, this hobby seems to be as much about sharpening than about shaving. Exploring different sharpening stones can be fun, perhaps even more so for the way they work and feel than for the final differences in the shaving edge.
N the assumptions that the OP drove the 2 Coticules, that he already owns, to their very limit and then some, I recommend to look for a La Grosse Blanche or a La Nouvelle Veine.
Best regards,
Bart.
PS. The next Vault addition is due end next week.
Disburden said:
Have to say I dilucotted a very worn Boker King Cutter from scratch on my La Nuevelle Vein and I didn't need post shave balm or anything afterwards - just a rinse and good to go.
Last night gave my #14 Filarmonica (not the DT one, the older version) a mild dilucot from light slurry just to bring the edge up to then give it 400 x-strokes on water. Had a very nice smooth shave, again no post shave stuff needed - just a wipe and good to go. Going to try and do the 300 laps a night on water for a week with this one.
Just as a query, are all LNV's natural combo's?
Bart
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Rhys said:
No, there often come as glued to slate as well. Speed on slurry can vary from fast to slow. Based on what I'be observed so far, I would say that usually the layer is slower, closer to the BBW. Hence the combos are usually slow. When it comes to the final edge, they all seem to be at the mellow side of the spectrum.
Kind regards,
Bart.
: .My LVN is glued to slate. It's pretty fast on slurry, very slow on water.
It's pretty hard for me to get this stone right. It does exhibit some slurry dulling if I'm not careful on dilutions. I'll think I'm doing everything right, but when I get to the HHT at the end, it can often be HHT 0, even if it started off at HHT 1-2 or something like that. When I get it right, however, which is pretty rare for me, it's super mellow and a pleasure to shave with.
I only have experience with my particular LVN, so no comment on the ones that are slower on slurry.
I don't want to discourage you from a LVN, but just be aware that it will probably take a lot longer to figure out, if it's like mine anyway. But then again I'm not that skilled either. If I could somehow figure mine out, I would sharpen up every single razor that I own with it.
At any rate, have fun with whatever you decide.
It's pretty hard for me to get this stone right. It does exhibit some slurry dulling if I'm not careful on dilutions. I'll think I'm doing everything right, but when I get to the HHT at the end, it can often be HHT 0, even if it started off at HHT 1-2 or something like that. When I get it right, however, which is pretty rare for me, it's super mellow and a pleasure to shave with.
I only have experience with my particular LVN, so no comment on the ones that are slower on slurry.
I don't want to discourage you from a LVN, but just be aware that it will probably take a lot longer to figure out, if it's like mine anyway. But then again I'm not that skilled either. If I could somehow figure mine out, I would sharpen up every single razor that I own with it.
At any rate, have fun with whatever you decide.
Paul
Well-Known Member
I've used all three layers considered (La Petite Blanche, La Nouvelle Veine, and La Grosse Blanche), and I love the edges off all of them. I personally think that none of the three are particularly easy to bridge the keenness gap, but all are well worth learning because the edges they yield are quite nice...
I'm a La Petite Blanche junkie, but I'm not going to "recommend" them as your next strata as I'm sure you'll wind up there at some point any way
I'm a La Petite Blanche junkie, but I'm not going to "recommend" them as your next strata as I'm sure you'll wind up there at some point any way
Ok, as soon as I finish writing my last post, I go back to a razor I've failed to hone in several sessions over the last few days. I tell myself, I might as well try the LVN, if I fail again, no big deal.
I did a ton of dilutions. Somewhere between 20-30, after doing some more bevel setting. Slurry starts as white, is totally gray after first set of half strokes. Over time, color slowly turns to a light brown color. Again, I tell myself, I've got nothing to lose, so 100 laps on water to finish. I'm impatient, so I normally don't do this many, but I stick with it. Now, HHT is 2-3 straight off the coticule, just a water rinse, no wiping with paper. I never had this over the past few days! So, I do 100 more. Still HHT 2-3. Should I make it 300? Again, I'm impatient, so I think I'll just strop. I'm looking forward to the test shave tomorrow.
What I keep finding is that honing on coticules is fun, and there's always something for me to learn if I really try. In my frustration over the last few days, I did break out the DMT and Norton 4K/8K I started off with. There's nothing wrong with the man-made hones, but there's just something special on something all-natural. In the end, it's the all-purpose coticule that did the trick for me.
It probably doesn't matter which layer you get. As always, if you don't like it, you can always sell it to someone here and try out a different layer later. Good luck!
I did a ton of dilutions. Somewhere between 20-30, after doing some more bevel setting. Slurry starts as white, is totally gray after first set of half strokes. Over time, color slowly turns to a light brown color. Again, I tell myself, I've got nothing to lose, so 100 laps on water to finish. I'm impatient, so I normally don't do this many, but I stick with it. Now, HHT is 2-3 straight off the coticule, just a water rinse, no wiping with paper. I never had this over the past few days! So, I do 100 more. Still HHT 2-3. Should I make it 300? Again, I'm impatient, so I think I'll just strop. I'm looking forward to the test shave tomorrow.
What I keep finding is that honing on coticules is fun, and there's always something for me to learn if I really try. In my frustration over the last few days, I did break out the DMT and Norton 4K/8K I started off with. There's nothing wrong with the man-made hones, but there's just something special on something all-natural. In the end, it's the all-purpose coticule that did the trick for me.
It probably doesn't matter which layer you get. As always, if you don't like it, you can always sell it to someone here and try out a different layer later. Good luck!