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bay rhum dr harris a/s

Hi,

Yes, I tried Bay Rhum, but by Colonel Conk:
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And that was, actually, the only one I tried. Not that I didn't like the scent. Simply, I bought a few of them, so I'm now finishing the last one. :)
 
Hi,

I use the Dr. Harris Bay Rum A/S. It is a very nice bay rum, a bit on the delicate side, a classic. I truly like the scent. My only problem with the Dr. Harris is that the scent doesn't linger. It's gone quite quickly.

regards,
Torolf
 
Argh, I need to remember to copy my post before clicking "post reply". Anyway, what I meant to say is that, while I do not know if this is the case for DR Harris Bay Rhum, the vast majority of so-call bay rums are not actually bay rums. These untrue elixirs use the leaf of the bay laurel, which is from the old world, rather than the leaf or berry of the West Indian bay tree, which is what a true bay rum uses. To be honest, the unauthentic ones have a culinary smell* to me--they make me think of soup. I wouldn't be surprised if there were products calling themselves "bay rum" that use neither the true bay tree nor rum. The real deal has a slightly different smell, which is one I find more agreeable outside of the dining room. St. John's is an example of an authentic bay rum. It is still made in the West Indies.

*If not overpowered by other notes, as the bay leaf, whichever kind it is, has a rather subtle smell.
 
Hi,

Dr. Harris Bay Rum is true bay leaf. Pimenta racemosa.

Yes, disappears quickly.

regards,
Torolf
 
Well mens. Here i can share a recipe of after shave bay rum splash. I learned from old Greek barbers,i can guarantee that it is great but is really time consuming.
1) You need an oak wood bowl or a very small oak wooden barrel.(one liter)In Greece is available.
2) Two kilos of fresh green bay leaves.
3)One liter of high quality rum or raki.
4)100 ml aloe vera
The leaves should remain in the barrel or bowl for six months to ripen like tea or cigar and pipe tobacco .Then you have to add the rum remaining one month sucking the oils from the leaves and the oak wood.Finally must be add the aloe.
That's all.
The result is amazing.The fragrance lasts and the sensation of the skin is gentle.
Best regards
Emmanuel
Note: The barrel or the bowl should be hermetically sealed. Concerning the barrel is easy closing the taper plug ,the bowl must be sealed with a piece of plastic film .
 
I'll try that at home Emmanuel.

As soon as I find a small oak barrel.

And fresh leaves (do you find "pimenta racemosa" leaves in Greece btw ??).

(High quality rum is already available at mi casa :w00t: and aloe vera shouldn't be an issue via eBay)
 
decraew said:
I'll try that at home Emmanuel.

As soon as I find a small oak barrel.

And fresh leaves (do you find "pimenta racemosa" leaves in Greece btw ??).

(High quality rum is already available at mi casa :w00t: and aloe vera shouldn't be an issue via eBay)
if you do so don't forget to send me some:w00t:
 
geruchtemoaker said:
if you do so don't forget to send me some:w00t:

I will but don't get you hopes up Stijn, those leaves are really hard to find. I did make something out of the essential oil, but I'm not quite there yet.

Emmanuel, it strikes me that your aftershave has a very high alcohol content. Did you ever add something to make it sting less (demineralised water, rosewater, orange blossom water ...) ?
 
decraew said:
geruchtemoaker said:
if you do so don't forget to send me some:w00t:

I will but don't get you hopes up Stijn, those leaves are really hard to find. I did make something out of the essential oil, but I'm not quite there yet.

Emmanuel, it strikes me that your aftershave has a very high alcohol content. Did you ever add something to make it sting less (demineralised water, rosewater, orange blossom water ...) ?

It is hard find? No realy not Wim I saw them many times in the Belgium forest <feuilles de laurier>
in french.In short if is hard to find i ll send you some from greek mountains.
Normally rum has 20 to 22 degrees .Is not to much ,but if you like to dilute it you can add natural serum or demineralised water. Do not add rose water or orange blossom water because you will harm the natural aroma of bay leaves and oak wood and you know if you mix different smells and you are not
perfumer you achieve to carry out shit fragrance.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
Ah, ok Emmanuel, then I see what leaves you use. See danjared's post, you use the stuff I use in the kitchen I presume. But ok, I'll probably will be able to get hold of that !

What type of rum do you use ?
 
Is the same That's "pimenta racemosa"
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Best regards
Emmanuel
 
I used this one :
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But i think that you can use any clear rum ,never clored.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
TM280 said:
Hi,

Dr. Harris Bay Rum is true bay leaf. Pimenta racemosa.

Yes, disappears quickly.

regards,
Torolf

I checked D.R. Harris' website, and they say that they use the oil of the bay tree added to the aftershave. So, technically it is still not a bay rum, as bay rum is made from the berry or leaf of the bay tree distilled in rum. This is the source of the meaning "double-distilled" in regards to bay rum. As such, the smell is probably weaker than one would get from a true bay rum. I've tried some authentic bay rums, and the scent of them at least lingers so that I can smell it for a while.
 
Emmanuel said:
decraew said:
geruchtemoaker said:
if you do so don't forget to send me some:w00t:

I will but don't get you hopes up Stijn, those leaves are really hard to find. I did make something out of the essential oil, but I'm not quite there yet.

Emmanuel, it strikes me that your aftershave has a very high alcohol content. Did you ever add something to make it sting less (demineralised water, rosewater, orange blossom water ...) ?

It is hard find? No realy not Wim I saw them many times in the Belgium forest <feuilles de laurier>
in french.In short if is hard to find i ll send you some from greek mountains.
Normally rum has 20 to 22 degrees .Is not to much ,but if you like to dilute it you can add natural serum or demineralised water. Do not add rose water or orange blossom water because you will harm the natural aroma of bay leaves and oak wood and you know if you mix different smells and you are not
perfumer you achieve to carry out shit fragrance.
Best regards
Emmanuel

I do not know French, but based on the name, I'm assuming "laurier" refers to laurel, meaning bay laurel. This is the same as the bay leaf commonly used in cooking and is an old world plant. Pimenta racemosa is a tropical plant from the Caribbean, particularly the U.S. Virgin Islands, where bay rum originates. I would be very surprised if it is capable of growing in Belgium let alone thriving there.

Unfortunately, thanks to the effects of the US Prohibition era and the rationing of naval resources during World War II, bay rum became very scarce and is now fairly uncommon at best. This is my personal conjecture, but it might explain the use of the bay laurel leaf instead in its preparation in many so-called bay rums. I would imagine that the low demand these days makes it rather difficult to source the pimenta racemosa leaf. Maybe this would explain why D.R. Harris uses the essential oil instead.
 
stalker said:
which are for you the best bay rhum cologne??

have you ever tried trumper bay rhum?

I got a sampler of sixteen from Barclay Crocker (many of the samples included used bay laurel, though), and I really liked the St. John's and St. Thomas bay rums. I didn't care much for Trumper's rendition, which had an unlasting scent and--if I recall correctly--stung more than usual.
 
danjared said:
I do not know French, but based on the name, I'm assuming "laurier" refers to laurel, meaning bay laurel. This is the same as the bay leaf commonly used in cooking and is an old world plant. Pimenta racemosa is a tropical plant from the Caribbean, particularly the U.S. Virgin Islands, where bay rum originates. I would be very surprised if it is capable of growing in Belgium let alone thriving there.

Exactly my thoughts. I think, Emmanuel, that what you use & which grows in the wild all through the Mediterranean is Laurus Nobilis. Unless Pimenta Racemosa has been imported to Greece.

I just ordered the samples from St Johns. I'm curious !
 
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