bluemantra
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I was just wondering if it was excessive to touch up a razor on my coticule on water only once a week. It's not removing too much metal right?
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bluemantra
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Never mind....a search turned up the answer I sought. Sorry about that
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I would like to confirm that. I have been shaving with one razor for 35 days in a row now. It had the vintage factory edge when I bought it, and I just set a secondary bevel. Absolutely no problems with it so far. I think that is a nice way of maintaining a razor, as it is consistent and reproducible (unlike pliable media like pasted or sprayed hanging strops), and does not take much time, either.
Just for the record, it is one of the dreaded "they take forever to hone" / "I have had very mixed results" / "those little suckers are freakin' hard" (they're not - quite the contrary, actually) Friodurs. I have said it before, and I shall say it again: these razors are vastly underrated, and because they are not rare at all, can be had for extremely reasonable money (ie 50-80 USD in good or better condition) if you bring a little patience. Anything above 120 USD is either one of the few collectors' items, or a rip-off.
Just for the record, it is one of the dreaded "they take forever to hone" / "I have had very mixed results" / "those little suckers are freakin' hard" (they're not - quite the contrary, actually) Friodurs. I have said it before, and I shall say it again: these razors are vastly underrated, and because they are not rare at all, can be had for extremely reasonable money (ie 50-80 USD in good or better condition) if you bring a little patience. Anything above 120 USD is either one of the few collectors' items, or a rip-off.
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The wonderful thing about these scales is that you can tear them off, burn them, and replace them with something that does not violate the Geneva convention. The razor itself is reasonably rare - took me two years to get one in decent condition (yo, Bart, how's it looking?).
And I think I have actually found an image of the scale maker.
And I think I have actually found an image of the scale maker.
bluemantra
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I found that a touch up on water only once a week or every 6 to 7 shaves will help maintain the razors edge for quite sometime without the need to go back further in the honing process and is also more advantageous than using pastes for this very same task.
My other question is, for those who have nice vintage razors or razors that they want to have forever and hone without using tape, how much metal is removed during the honing process and on touch ups. I set a bevel on a DMT 600/1200 and went to the dilucot method with a milky slurry yesterday. On the DMT I wasn't using very much pressure at all, but it didn't feel like it was removing gobs of metal. Same for my coticule, the slurry never got dark dark grey and I was using quite a bit of pressure, again it didn't feel like I was removing very much metal. I have 4 Filarmonica's all NOS and a LeGrelot and some other razors I consider my pride and joys. I was nervous about honing them, messing up, honing again, and removing an excessive amount of metal and effectively aging the razor prematurely. I'm just looking for some thoughts here. My instinct tells me a razor will last as long a coticule, decades, generations, a lifetime, etc.. Any truth in that thinking?
My other question is, for those who have nice vintage razors or razors that they want to have forever and hone without using tape, how much metal is removed during the honing process and on touch ups. I set a bevel on a DMT 600/1200 and went to the dilucot method with a milky slurry yesterday. On the DMT I wasn't using very much pressure at all, but it didn't feel like it was removing gobs of metal. Same for my coticule, the slurry never got dark dark grey and I was using quite a bit of pressure, again it didn't feel like I was removing very much metal. I have 4 Filarmonica's all NOS and a LeGrelot and some other razors I consider my pride and joys. I was nervous about honing them, messing up, honing again, and removing an excessive amount of metal and effectively aging the razor prematurely. I'm just looking for some thoughts here. My instinct tells me a razor will last as long a coticule, decades, generations, a lifetime, etc.. Any truth in that thinking?
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Well, what is the alternative? Abrasive pastes or sprays. Why are they called "abrasive"? Because they remove metal. How else could they sharpen an edge?
The real question is, how many shaves can you get out of either method before the razor needs to be fully honed again. Because this is where the real damage is done. Using a pliable medium (strop, rubber) for the abrasive, the edge will become rounded. Using a hone, this will not happen. I should think that should lead to longer periods between full honings.
Is honings a word?
The real question is, how many shaves can you get out of either method before the razor needs to be fully honed again. Because this is where the real damage is done. Using a pliable medium (strop, rubber) for the abrasive, the edge will become rounded. Using a hone, this will not happen. I should think that should lead to longer periods between full honings.
Is honings a word?
Bart
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Who cares?BeBerlin said:
Your explanation is spot on. But even with a touching-up-regime (how's that for a word?) on solid hones, the edge will still accumulate damage over time and eventually requires something more powerful than a mere touchup.
Kind regards,
Bart
PS. I always fancied unicorn horn for a scale material...
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I do. Although Schärfvorgänge sounds a lot more sensible.Bart said:
What I said. But that still makes in-between sharpening with a hone more efficient than with a pasted strop or similar.Bart said:
Be careful what you wish for...Bart said:
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That was actually quite simple: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=furfaggotry+site%3Aencyclopediadramatica.com - an ED can be quite entertaining, but it is 100% NSFW.
danjared
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"Honings" is a perfectly valid construction. Or, as my linguist friends would say, "It's perfectly cromulent." English has a wonderful capacity for forming words that don't span half a line.
bluemantra: Follow Ralfy's advice, adjusting as needed for the hone in question. For example, on the La Grise you mentioned having, you may want to try more strokes, perhaps 50-60, if 30 doesn't seem to have an effect. This will avoid the need for a "power touchup" for quite some time. Just don't do 10 strokes only. Ralfy tried that and failed miserably.
Robin: I didn't know you were into furries.
bluemantra: Follow Ralfy's advice, adjusting as needed for the hone in question. For example, on the La Grise you mentioned having, you may want to try more strokes, perhaps 50-60, if 30 doesn't seem to have an effect. This will avoid the need for a "power touchup" for quite some time. Just don't do 10 strokes only. Ralfy tried that and failed miserably.
Robin: I didn't know you were into furries.
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That is actually the CEO of the North American Custom Scale Makers society during a brain storming session.