I am currently trying the Dilucot as we speak

[Disburden]

Congratulation Nick,

I have also tried to shave again with my "bad" razor (mediocre Dilucot + CrOx on balsa),but got again bad result: not very smooth and some irritation:cry:

Bart, what I called a good HHT was at a bit more than 1cm from the holding point + with thick hair, if you call it poor HHT... there 's a long way to the top for me:cry: :cry: :cry:

When properly stropped, such an edge will easily pass the HHT much further form the holding point (4-5cm and more). And the shaves are excellent.

definitely I have to change my strop or to learn to strop :cry: :cry: :cry:


Regards

Laurent

I am sure your strop is fine, it's the the method you are using which is something you learn with time, it'll happen. I still didn't get anything off a HHT this morning and I tried clean, dry, hair. I think my hair just doesn't work with it from what I have experienced, not like I need it much anyway, Shave test is fine since I have heavy stubble every morning when I wake up no matter how good of a shave I get (four passes all the time,etc). The razor feels rough? Does it cut arm hair when you set the bevel? If so try more polishing maybe? I am not experienced with coticules I Am just going by honing in general.

Now I am going to try another razor and see what happens.

 

[Bart]

Bart, what I called a good HHT was at a bit more than 1cm from the holding point + with thick hair, if you call it poor HHT... there 's a long way to the top for me:cry: :cry: :cry:

When properly stropped, such an edge will easily pass the HHT much further form the holding point (4-5cm and more). And the shaves are excellent.

definitely I have to change my strop or to learn to strop.

Laurent,

If I understood you correctly in your other thread, you can get your thick hair to pass the HHT, coming straight off the stone, pretty much the same as I. What you didn't get, was the improvement from stropping. That still sounds to me something is wrong with your stropping or the strop you use. But if even CrO doesn't solve the problem, maybe it's time we started looking at the razor. My suggestion is to try a Unicot. If I understood you well, you've been successful with that method on another razor, so it's should not be to hard to get this one shaving nicely. Just put on your 2 layers of tape (2 because your tape is only 0.1mm thick) and take it through the final steps of Unicot. After that, your edge should pass the HHT a bit better than off after Dilucot, and after stropping, the HHT should work at 4-5 cm distance from the holding point. If it meets the first condition, but still fails to gain the improvement after stropping, than I 'm offer to lend you my Dovo Russian, that I guarantee works fine.
Should also Unicot fail to respond to the HHT, I suggest that your send the razor to me, so I can examine with the stereoscope that the blade doesn't have any kind of micro-chipping problem while gaining keenness. It's rare but it happens, notably on razors that had previous issues with corrosion. It would be stupid to get all frustrated over a razor that just can't take a decent edge. It's time to get to the bottom of this.

Kind regards,
Bart.

 

[DJKELLY]

You really are a kind sir, Bart. I never cease to be amazed at the generosity I see here. :thumbup:

 

[chti_lolo]

That's very,very kind of you Bart:thumbup:

I will try UNICOT on this razor to check the razor (but I don't think it's a corrosion problem because while I was removing the chips I have never noticed any corrosion point on the edge furthermore I'm quite sure that this razor was made after 1950-1960)

I really appreciate your offer to lend me a strop. I realized that the pad on my modular paddle strop was not a latigo pad but a premium I leather pad (7,5cm*30cm). So maybe this strop is more suitable for dilucot stropping?

But don't worry about me, Bart. I'm a stubborn guy and not getting frustrated. I'm already very happy with my Unicot edges and I don't consider the time I have spent Dilucoting on that razor to be lost time because I have learnt a lot.

Just another question, when you talk about 4-5cm afer stropping was it on thin hair or thick hair? and what do you call thick hair (thick hair for me is hair from my breast)?



PS :Here is a pic of my "naughty boy"

 

[Bart]

Just another question, when you talk about 4-5cm after stropping was it on thin hair or thick hair? and what do you call thick hair (thick hair for me is hair from my breast)?

After stropping thick or thin hair does not seem to matter much. They'll all pass easily.

I can't comment on chest hair, because in spite of popular believe, I don't have hair on my chest. :

At the end of the day, the HHT is more about finding hair that responds well to the test and correlating your results to your shaves, than it is about comparing your HHT results to mine.

Kind regards,
Bart.

 

[chti_lolo]

I can't comment on chest hair, because in spite of popular believe, I don't have hair on my chest. :

don't worry Bart, it may happen when you grow older

Unicot works but I have to do some extra laps near the heel (maybe the secondary bevel was not well set, I have rubbed twice my slurry stone to make a watery slurry...). I have not done a shave test because I'm giving my face a rest.

So maybe it's my stropping technique or my strop? is premium I leather more suitable than latigo?

the HHT is more about finding hair that responds well to the test and correlating your results to your shaves, than it is about comparing your HHT results to mine.

I know that, but as I have read that the better the HHT the smoother the shave....

After stropping thick or thin hair does not seem to matter much. They'll all pass easily.

the question was more about the 4-5cm. My better source of hair is long hair from my daughter and they are quite thin, I can not perform an HHT on a double edge blade at less than 1cm, so when I 'm close to DE results, I'm very happy.



Regards


Laurent

 

[Bart]

After stropping thick or thin hair does not seem to matter much. They'll all pass easily.

the question was more about the 4-5cm. My better source of hair is long hair from my daughter and they are quite thin, I can not perform an HHT on a double edge blade at less than 1cm, so when I 'm close to DE results, I'm very happy.

I understood your question. After stropping, I only test at about 4-5 cm and the hair thickness doesn't matter. I usually pick a fine hair. But the hairs are clean. Greasy hair responds much less to the HHT.

Kind regards,
Bart.

 

[chti_lolo]

I'm really impressed:thumbup:
I thought that DE blades were sharper than straight razor edges but obviously was wrong (my feather blade cuts thin hair at only about 1cm).

Regards


Laurent

 

[Paul]

I'm really impressed:thumbup:
I thought that DE blades were sharper than straight razor edges but obviously was wrong (my feather blade cuts thin hair at only about 1cm).

Regards


Laurent

I have not had DE blades pass any of my tests as well as straights, but what do I know?