Selbstrasirer Rose

[efsk]

One of my first, possibly the first, wedge-type SE I acquired: the Rose Selbstrasirer.
Basically a Kampfe-type lathercatcher with a two-piece handle and a stroppinghelp, packed in a tin can that no longer shows what it was for. As this is from around 1896 I found that not too surprising, although I've seen them better preserved.
Originally it came with a Rose blade, mine with a Henkels.
The head has two little "points on top. These are actually adjustment screws, that you can use to adjust how far the blade can move to the comb. The lower part of the handle has a small slot in one end (not photographed because I discovered this feature after taking pics for years ago) that will fit the points and let you adjust.
Last two pics shows similarities and differences with the Comfort SE.

 

[The King]

We sometimes talk about unique safety razors, but without a doubt this is one of them.

 

[sɐǝɹpu∀]

It always amazes me how blatantly the Germans made 100% copies of Kampfe razors without giving any credit.
Other than the writing and markings, both the Rose and the Comfort are identical to Kampfe razors of the time.
The Germans were the Chinese of their age.

 

[Walid]

Followup to this thread is here

I beg to differ about the German being the Chinese of their time. If you consider them cheaters then a more accurate description is The Americans of their time. Americans started copying shamelessly the Brits in the 1800s and the Brits were mad at them. Fast forward to our time and again if you consider the Chinese copying the Americans and assuming the German were copying the Americans after that then we can call the Chinese the Germans of our time.

If you carefully read history, you will know that the Germans were ahead of their time in technology. Only war slowed them down (WW1). But they were able to rebuild back better (pun intended) and stronger than ever in a short amount of time. That is a an insanely strong nation.

Same goes for the Chinese. If you think copying is easy, read the patents about chip building and try to create an EUV machine like ASML. You'll be selling machines 200 million a pop.
Just try it and see if it works for you. All ASML patents are available. BTW 30% of the names on these patents are of Chinese origin.

Patents are not the tools that helps copying, They don't tell you how to build things or build them efficiently to commercial scale or get you unparalleled quality control. It's craftsmanship, manufacturing know-how and engineering that gets the job done. Patents are for protecting the creative part of the invention with legal means.

 

[Tom]

It is a very sad that the litho of the tin is gone. I have a photo here of a Rose tin, that I once had. In addition to the description and decoration, two important details can be seen there. Firstly, the trademark, the Rose with the deposited number 5464, like in the center of the razor kead and below the D.R.G.M No. 36737. The trademark was registered on ..... in the Leipzig district court for Ch. H. Zimmermann. This entry was for the Rosen safety razor made 1893 and was used for the later Rose safety razor as well. The D.R.G.M. No. is dated December 10, 1884 and was issued for Ch.H. Zimmermann, Leipzig for a "Safety razor with a handle parallel to the shaving surface and a foam catcher with bent side edges". That is an early German American Model safety razor.

Here the trademark. The world Deponiert meens filled, left at the court.

There are also wedge blade variations. Extra Prima is a little bid mor hollow.

 

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[TobyC]

That was some internet images.