life2short1971
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Just to update. The mail has come and gone as they do 6 days a week. And as they is the normal response when I open the mailbox there is no package for me. I just sit and yearn for my Ern which is due to return.
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life2short1971
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I received my razor today Emmanuel! I shall shave with it tonite. I did the HHT and it was slicing at an inch or better so I can't wait to shave with it. Thank you.
life2short1971
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This evening I shave with an Ern that Emmanuel graciously honed for me with his method and I found the shave to be quite keen or brisk but not like the keen I get from BBW where I get a burn. It is a good shave no doubt and would be happy to shave with that edge any day of the week. Thank you Emmanuel I would like to know your method.
life2short1971
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I shaved with the Ern again tonight because I was BBS for a good 14 hours. My technique must have been off last night I was a little under the weather. I shave with it again tonight and I noticed much more how the razor went through my chin scruff effortlessly which is not easy. I splashed the Clubman on and there was no burn o irritation. Thank you Emmanuel I only wish I was good with words to express my joy.
Emmanuel
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Honing the razors of our mates Scott life2short1971 and Laurens chilolo, i would like to share
what exactly I've noticed.Both razors came honed on coticules to the extent as to reach a HHT 0-1.I didn't dull the blades ,performing a power touch up honing .With a very light slurry ,i
ran elliptical strokes (does not matter,elliptical or half strikes ,however i bring off the same result with both methods)following the normal dilution never leaving slurry to return thicker but always thinner and thinner until it seems like water. Explaining: put your index on the blade shorter in the spine as Bart suggests starting from the heel ( i mean touching your index firstly near the heel) performing 10 elliptical or half strokes then transfer your index in the middle adding more 10 strokes and 10 more with your index near the top .Same at the other side ,diluting and keeping the slurry same condition if you like (for a while)or thinner ,i'll repeat one more but never never thicker.So we have 60 strokes both sides, (10+10+10 one side) and (10+10+10 the other side).Maybe 60x 6 times enough ,always diluting .Rinse the blade and the stone performing 3 x60 half strokes on clean water .Rinse one more the blade and the hone performing 60 X strokes on clean water too.
After that if you haven't a HHT less than 4 ,throw all from the window continuing with cartridge.
No ,no im just joking.My explanation maybe seems like directions for babies,but i would like to be sure that the mates who can not make the final stage,this help them to do it.I heard many times friends to say . < I reached a HHT violin but i stucked there,this evening i,ll redull the edge starting from the beggining.> I'll say no .Why if you arrived until a good violin you get the experience to do it again.So you have to try and try just at the last stages.I believe that the seed sown by Bart and others experienced members give fruits.The more of the younger members needs a liitle bit to reached perfect results.
Best regards
Emmanuel
what exactly I've noticed.Both razors came honed on coticules to the extent as to reach a HHT 0-1.I didn't dull the blades ,performing a power touch up honing .With a very light slurry ,i
ran elliptical strokes (does not matter,elliptical or half strikes ,however i bring off the same result with both methods)following the normal dilution never leaving slurry to return thicker but always thinner and thinner until it seems like water. Explaining: put your index on the blade shorter in the spine as Bart suggests starting from the heel ( i mean touching your index firstly near the heel) performing 10 elliptical or half strokes then transfer your index in the middle adding more 10 strokes and 10 more with your index near the top .Same at the other side ,diluting and keeping the slurry same condition if you like (for a while)or thinner ,i'll repeat one more but never never thicker.So we have 60 strokes both sides, (10+10+10 one side) and (10+10+10 the other side).Maybe 60x 6 times enough ,always diluting .Rinse the blade and the stone performing 3 x60 half strokes on clean water .Rinse one more the blade and the hone performing 60 X strokes on clean water too.
After that if you haven't a HHT less than 4 ,throw all from the window continuing with cartridge.
No ,no im just joking.My explanation maybe seems like directions for babies,but i would like to be sure that the mates who can not make the final stage,this help them to do it.I heard many times friends to say . < I reached a HHT violin but i stucked there,this evening i,ll redull the edge starting from the beggining.> I'll say no .Why if you arrived until a good violin you get the experience to do it again.So you have to try and try just at the last stages.I believe that the seed sown by Bart and others experienced members give fruits.The more of the younger members needs a liitle bit to reached perfect results.
Best regards
Emmanuel
Bart
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À perfect explanation Emmanuel. I fully second it. I have repeated several times already that the success of the experienced is for a significant part influenced by their confidence that they will get there, no matter how many laps it takes.
If find the ability to do a reliable HHT primordial in this respect. If I had to actually test shave each time I do a HHT, It would take forever to hone some razors. It is no exception that I have to cycle trough finishing variations followed by a HHT 3, 4 or even more times, before I am satisfied with the results.
If you would like to continue extending this service, and would like to be add to the Coticule.be Free Sharpening service, just drop me an e-mail. I'd be honored to have you on board.
Kind regards,
Bart.
If find the ability to do a reliable HHT primordial in this respect. If I had to actually test shave each time I do a HHT, It would take forever to hone some razors. It is no exception that I have to cycle trough finishing variations followed by a HHT 3, 4 or even more times, before I am satisfied with the results.
If you would like to continue extending this service, and would like to be add to the Coticule.be Free Sharpening service, just drop me an e-mail. I'd be honored to have you on board.
Kind regards,
Bart.
tat2Ralfy
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Absolutely wonderful Gents :thumbup:
Welcome on Board Emmanuel my friend, you truly are an asset
Wise words indeed, we often see new guys finding they cant get past the Violin, and taking the edge right back to start again, there is no need to that, if you are getting a Violin then you are very nearly there.
Regards
Ralfson (Dr)
Welcome on Board Emmanuel my friend, you truly are an asset
Wise words indeed, we often see new guys finding they cant get past the Violin, and taking the edge right back to start again, there is no need to that, if you are getting a Violin then you are very nearly there.
Regards
Ralfson (Dr)
chti_lolo
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Emmanuel, I have also honed a razor which according to your HHT scale should be something like HHT3, so what should I do to make it HHT 4 or more? do I need very very light slurry or working on water is sufficient?
if you get better HHT result on one part of the blade (for instance first third of the blade) do you perform only localized treatment (half or elliptical stroke) only on the less good part of the edge?
Regards
Laurent
if you get better HHT result on one part of the blade (for instance first third of the blade) do you perform only localized treatment (half or elliptical stroke) only on the less good part of the edge?
Regards
Laurent
Emmanuel
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Laurent.Now you know well what i mean saying HHT 3 or 4 or 5.If reached at 3 before stroping that's a good result.But if you like to take a best HHT from your coticule ,you have to perform more HS or ES insisting the place of the blades that gives lower HHT,but both sides.Try to do that on clear water .Something that will help you more is: separate imaginary the blade to four parts.
Put your indicator on the first part starting from the heal performing 7 motion (HS or ES)
then 7 next part and so forth .At the part that keenness is lower ,perform 10 motions .Then the other side but always you have to finish by X strokes very very light ,be sure that the spine and the edge touch on the hone pulling the razor at least until the hone sender line.
Keep me iformed
Best regards
Emmanuel
Put your indicator on the first part starting from the heal performing 7 motion (HS or ES)
then 7 next part and so forth .At the part that keenness is lower ,perform 10 motions .Then the other side but always you have to finish by X strokes very very light ,be sure that the spine and the edge touch on the hone pulling the razor at least until the hone sender line.
Keep me iformed
Best regards
Emmanuel
rtedwards
Active Member
Emmanuel said:
Emmanuel,
Thank you for posting this technique. I've been struggling with a razor that I couldn't get a consistent edge on, and recently I bought a lovely Wostenholm and Sons razor with very little wear, but an uneven grind that left it a little thicker about 1/3 away from the tip. Both of these razors were popping hairs on most of the edge but resistant to my best efforts in the dull parts. The Wosty has an obvious variation in bevel width, at least twice as wide along the thicker portion. For the other one I was beginning to wonder if there was a temper problem on part of the edge. I followed your guidelines above and managed to get the entire edge to a 3+. HHT 4 and 5 remain elusive mirages for me at this stage, but I just had a smooth shave with the Wosty that can't be faulted. I use the entire blade when I shave and variations in sharpness are obvious and annoying. This edge was great. I'm beginning to be quite enamored of the Sheffield steels.
I am now much bolder about concentrating my efforts at different sections of the edge and it is making a difference.
rtedwards
Active Member
I did some concentrated work with a little 18 x 84 mm bout I recently bought from Superior Shave. Fast as all get out and butter smooth. Then I finished up on a (presumptive) La Verte bought from Jarrod. If I get the time today I am going to photograph the bout and ask for an ID. If I could get the same layer in a 40 x 150 or more I would be sorely tempted to buy one more stone :w00t: it is an very lovely stone.
The La Verte is one of the grey-green stones that has been discussed here. My color vision is about like Jarrod's, which is to say not so hot at subtle tones. Jarrod says they are fast for that layer, but told me mine was the slowest of that lot that he had. I would not call this stone slow at all and as I get to know it I am getting better and better edges. A very hard stone. My Dressantes are softer, fast and velvety, this Verte is hard, medium speed and silky. There is something really sensuous about how this stone feels and I think I have better control over the subtlest of motions with this one. I'm surprised there isn't more buzz about these, but then I've never used an LPB. I have been told they put on a crisp edge, but I'm not really sure what that feels like, despite the descriptions, at this stage in my learning.
The La Verte is one of the grey-green stones that has been discussed here. My color vision is about like Jarrod's, which is to say not so hot at subtle tones. Jarrod says they are fast for that layer, but told me mine was the slowest of that lot that he had. I would not call this stone slow at all and as I get to know it I am getting better and better edges. A very hard stone. My Dressantes are softer, fast and velvety, this Verte is hard, medium speed and silky. There is something really sensuous about how this stone feels and I think I have better control over the subtlest of motions with this one. I'm surprised there isn't more buzz about these, but then I've never used an LPB. I have been told they put on a crisp edge, but I'm not really sure what that feels like, despite the descriptions, at this stage in my learning.
hello my name is Stefan, I am 37 years old and from Germany. First I want to say that my English is more than bad. But still hope that you understand me. For over 20 years I beginn, to shave wet and about 2 years with the razor. Since then I am honing my razor.
Campaigning for sharpening were always the Naniwa super stone. A stone Armada. I read in a forum, a report by Blue Dun, thank you yet at this point for the tip with Coticule.Be. At first I thought what a dork (because I think at this time honing with one Stone can´t go!) but then I tried it out myself and had to say --> wonderful!
I read a lot at the forum and learn many thinks about coticule./honing
I then I met here Emmanuel and sent him a razor for honing. On my razor, I was a little bit proud, I am honing with Dilucot succeeded quite well.
after I get it back from Greece, I was not proud, maybe even a little bit ashamed about my work.
Thank you Emmanuel what you are doing is art.
now I want to show you a picture of my stones.
Kind regards
Stefan
Campaigning for sharpening were always the Naniwa super stone. A stone Armada. I read in a forum, a report by Blue Dun, thank you yet at this point for the tip with Coticule.Be. At first I thought what a dork (because I think at this time honing with one Stone can´t go!) but then I tried it out myself and had to say --> wonderful!
I read a lot at the forum and learn many thinks about coticule./honing
I then I met here Emmanuel and sent him a razor for honing. On my razor, I was a little bit proud, I am honing with Dilucot succeeded quite well.
after I get it back from Greece, I was not proud, maybe even a little bit ashamed about my work.
Thank you Emmanuel what you are doing is art.
now I want to show you a picture of my stones.
Kind regards
Stefan
: ?@ Dr. Ralfson/chti_lolo
thank you for welcome. Yes the stones are wonderful, with this stones I have fun until the end of my life
@ chti_lolo
The half ,from the middle to the toe had a HHT 3 ,the rest from the middle to the heel had a HHT 0-1.
Thank you for your support
best regards
Stefan
thank you for welcome. Yes the stones are wonderful, with this stones I have fun until the end of my life
@ chti_lolo
The half ,from the middle to the toe had a HHT 3 ,the rest from the middle to the heel had a HHT 0-1.
Thank you for your support
best regards
Stefan
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