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Our mate Stefan is an excellent Guy,very polite and generous. Was very close to a good result.As said the half blade had an HHT 3 and the rest 0-1.I was working just 20 minutes with a full dilucot because the previous Stefan's honing performed with tape.So i believe, Stefan giving a little more attention and trying to hone throughout the length of the blade ,he 'll be able to maintain his razors perfectly by itself.

Stefan i will be always at your disposal.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
chti_lolo said:
Mine was only HHT 0-1 all along the edge:blush:
But it was not my best edge, so I was not totally desperate:lol:

Regards

Laurent
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Hi Laurent .What about now.Is your technique improved ? Are very important the last x strokes no pressure and perfectly touched on the hone surface.

Your friend Emmanuel
 
Hi Emmanuel

I have had some difficulties because I have played with my La Petite Blanche which has not the same behaviour than my La Veinette. The La Veinette is more familiar to me and more easy, maybe it leaves a keener edge on slurry!
So sometimes as you advised me, it's interesting to work again on very thin slurry (I try to add some extra X-strokes on very thin slurry before going to water, it seems to work better for me).

I have had better result now, maybe a HHT-2 or a weak 3 on your scale;) but the razors were more easy than the one you hone for me.
I still have difficulties to improve my last X-strokes on water only (surely need some more practice).

Is there a requirement for lapping the hone with a high grit sand paper (1000 grits), I know that it's not necessary but that may help a beginner?
How should the edge undercut the water in the X-strokes on water?

BTW did you receive your La Petite Blanche?


Laurent
 
No i do not received La petite blanche. I think the problem existing in USA. I know that because i am waiting for another shipment from Chicago (with tracking number plus express) and even sent on 28 March up this moment still in US warehouse.I can believe it.
Laurent i am not sure i understood your question <<How should the edge undercut the water in the X-strokes on water>> Can you repeat it please ?
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
Emmanuel, to make it more clear (I don't think under cut means something in english) I wanted to say how should the water overflow (or run up) on the blade during X-strokes?

Hope you get your shipment soon.


Regards


Laurent
 
Allow me to interject :)

Undercut (verb): To make a cut under or below

So, yes, in the sense of honing, undercutting would be when the blade cuts below the water/water runs up on the blade
 
Thanks Paul.

Laurent ,no matter excess water or less. enough to be clear without trace of garnets.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
Emmanuel,

A picture can explain what I mean :"un petit dessin vaut mieux qu'une longue explication"

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Here the picture (which I borrow from another post on coticule.be) is with slurry. It's allways easy for me to "undercut" the fluid even with a very light slurry.
But when I perform X-strokes on water only, it is more tricky. So should I aim to a clear undercut on water only (like the one on the picture with slurry)?

Kind regards

Laurent
 
Hi Laurent,

Same here...
My idea is that when there is good undercutting with slurry, there is same good undercutting with water too... but the surface tension forces of clean water and slurry are different. Thats the cause, imho.
You may try this - add a drop of detergent to water on coticule and observe how the undercutting improves.

Regards,
Urmas
 
Hi Urmas,

I have already used the drop of detergent. It helps undercutting the water but I think this is "cheating":blush: ?
and wonder if we have to aim to this kind of undercutting on plain water without other tricks.


Regards

Laurent
 
Ok Laurent.Now i know what you mean exactly. Somebody used the word undercutting to give a meaning that the water or the misty slurry ascends on the blade. That's an indicator,indicating many different things.1)The blade well rests on the hone .2)The edge is not convex 3)Exists superabundance of liquid. About the smiles blades the undercutting will certainly be much less than a straight edge,however is a good indication where the edge touch the hone.But to be true the mentioned indication, should be the hone surface homogeneously wet.The drop of detergent to water does not helps the undercutting is just to avoid the tendency to become bead when the hone surface is a bit greased even by the palm natural fat.And this is achieved by increasing the water coherence and viscosity. Finally is a good idea to watch the water to ascend on the blade during X strokes,when you aren't sure whether the edge well touch the hone surface.
Best regards
Emmanuel
 
Emmanuel is dead on. Undercutting on water only is meaningful with thin layers of water, IMHO. With a lot of water on the stone, it's significantly easier to undercut the water than when it's thin
 
As said from me too :thumbup:

When the layer of water on the hone is thin enough to make you wonder if you need to add a little, and you are still getting water riding up the bevel as you hone, then for me that's a great indicator that the edge is pretty damn close indeed.

Regards
Ralfson (Dr)
 
tat2Ralfy said:
When the layer of water on the hone is thin enough to make you wonder if you need to add a little, and you are still getting water riding up the bevel as you hone, then for me that's a great indicator that the edge is pretty damn close indeed.
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Is it the same riding-up as in Jarrod honing touch-up video http://www.thesuperiorshave.com/Coticules.html especially in the second part (from 2'16'') of the video?

Regards

Laurent
 
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